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Art of the Cowgirl is an annual event in Arizona hosted by Tammy Pate and a host of amazing artists, cowgirls, and horsewomen. For the past three years, Kim and Phyllis have been the workshop leaders for the event’s photography workshop and Cara minds the CWC art booth. In this episode, the Cowgirls with Cameras catch you up on the event, the workshop, and the adventure of event photography.

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It's time to laugh, learn and take your photography to the

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next level with your favorite cowgirls with cameras, Cara, Kim

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and Phyllis.

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Hey there cowgirls with cameras. It's Kim

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with Kim Beer photography and Be More Business

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and Cara with Fast Horse Photography

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and Phyllis with Phyllis Burchett Photo.

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And we're all here with the Cowgirls with

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Cameras podcast. So we're having a lot of fun with the podcast,

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we've started off our episode today with a really good laugh.

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So we're gonna hope that we bring those laughs and enjoyment

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to you today. So just a quick little rundown of what we're

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going to be talking about today, we're going to be giving you

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some updates on what's been going on in our world, which is

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probably going to be the most entertaining part of the

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podcast. So we'll get that up and going right away, then we're

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going to move on to talking about what's the Art of the

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Cowgirl and that experience that we had in January at this

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amazing event. So you're definitely going to want to hang

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around and learn about that and the inspirations that we all

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walked away with from that event. And then finally, we're

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going to be talking about some gear and gadgets. And Phyllis

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and I have both been playing around with mirrorless cameras.

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And we'd like to discuss that a little bit and our takeaways on

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the movement to mirrorless. And Cara has some things she'd like

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to add that will inspire those of you who are not jumping on

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the mirrorless bandwagon. So definitely want to hang around

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for that piece as well. So let's get started by finding out what

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everybody's been up to this last week here or what have you been

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doing?

Cara Taylor Swift:

Well, let me tell you, it's not been

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glamorous, okay. It's not been like sunrises and sunsets all

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week long. I like to tell people sometimes that we operate and

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live at sunrises and sunsets, and this week has not been the

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case for me. I've had a lot of office work. I've been updating

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my artwork pricing guide for those of folks that are out

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there that offer product, I'm sure you are in shellshock a

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little bit as prices on all of the different types of mediums

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like Canvas and prints and metals. They're all going up. So

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I've had to adjust my pricing guide for artwork. And then I've

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been creating some art care cards, I thought it would be

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really fun to have something that when I give the artwork out

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that I give them something that tells them how to care for their

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new artwork. I have had two shoots this week, I had a

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beautiful equestrian senior session that took place at one

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of my favorite locations, the Florida Agricultural Museum, and

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that's the only place in Florida that I found that has a

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silhouette Hill. So that's always a big fun for me and I

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had a commercial tack shoot. And then the big thing is I've just

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been prepping for spring photoshootsSo lots of client

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meetings in anticipation of that and just kind of getting people

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geared up for their sessions and getting them scheduled for the

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spring and then the early fall. And then on a personal note, we

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had our very last basketball game for my son Easton, who's

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eight and he scored the winning shot. So it was crazy deal. They

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were tied. They had to go into overtime. And then right at the

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end, he scored this magnificent shot and the whole crowd went

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wild. So it was a superstar for a while. Oh, yeah, so that was

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kind of a big deal. You guys know Easton, so you know that

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that was kind of a big deal. I guess the other kind of end of

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that is I actually got to go horseback riding on my horse

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this week, Chief and my son was in the pond in a little boat and

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the puppy was swimming. And then my horse chief was splashing at

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the edge of the pond. And it was a really fun just been a while

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since I've been able to go out and just be chill at the farm

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and not have to clean stalls and all of that. So I have had a

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good week it's been but it hasn't been super glamorous.

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It's been a ton of office work to be honest. What about you

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Well, I'm going to tell you, Cara. I saw that

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guys?

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picture on Facebook that you shot on your silhouette Hill.

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And it was magnificently beautiful. I mean, it really

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caught my eye as I was scrolling down and I thought wow, that was

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amazing. I loved it. Loved it.

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Oh, thank you.

Phyllis Burchett:

It looks like it came right out of a fairy

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tale or something. It was absolutely gorgeous.

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Yeah, Gianna is one of Phyllis in mines

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models that makes an appearance at the horses on the beach

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workshop some years and this was her senior shoot. So it's pretty

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special to get to do that with her. And that silhouette Hill

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Phyllis can attest is probably the ugliest silhouette hill in

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the history of silhouette hills. It's a dirt mound, but it just

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goes to show that you take so topographers like we can see

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things that other people they look at that hill and when I go

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out to the farm, they're always like, what what do you mean by

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silhouette Hill? And I'm like, No, you guys, you guys made this

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beautiful dirt mound for me. And it's my new silhouette Hill and

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I'm super excited so I keep telling them whatever you do,

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like don't tear down my Silhouette hill because I'm

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going to put it to use over the years

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it's really cool to have that one tree there

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to kind of makes it even more magical and then your birds you

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know, that was beautiful.

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There it is it the photo was just absolutely

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stunning it to me it reminded me of like a Southern Gothic

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sunset. I mean, it was like Gone With the Wind is what it brought

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to mind. So it just was amazing.

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Well I'm starting off my day feeling like

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a superstar so thanks appreciate it. Phyllis, what have you been

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doing?

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Oh gosh. Oh, well, I have to admit that my

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week has not been entertaining for anyone. I don't think I

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don't know that anyone will enjoy hearing what I've been

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doing other than I will tell you I've had a while not finished

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up. I had a long mentorship session with a client that's

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been coming up to see me here at my house and we had a great day

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she learned a lot. We did some post processing and talked about

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business and pricing and thinks she left the session very

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helpful. So I also did a local photography club presentation,

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I'm going to be working on another one for the basics of

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photography. Coming up. I worked on my weekly newsletter and

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upcoming blog. I'm ordering new business cards. I had a couple

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of zoom calls with other clients. Wow. Had to,

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unfortunately had to rehang some artwork at my gallery that fell

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off the wall.

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I didn't realize they had fallen off.

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No, I did. I well, I did sell some work. But

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I actually had one metal print that somehow fell off the wall

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and curled two corners, which basically ruined it but I did

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sell it to somebody that thinks they can fix it at a reduced

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price. And then of course the thing we all have to do the

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other side that we don't like a photography more office work

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yuck. I did get to attend a flower show this weekend at the

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Atlantis botanical garden with my sister and another friend to

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support a couple of clients that had artwork entered in the

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photography contest. So that was fun. Even though it rained we

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had a beautiful weekend and I got to ride my bike all day on

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Saturday, but no didn't get to ride any horses this weekend. So

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that's about it. I didn't even pick up my camera for the past

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week.

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Isn't that crazy how we can be

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photographers and sometimes go a week or two without even picking

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up a camera. It is that really does talk to you a little bit

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about what the business side of photography is, doesn't it?

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Yeah, well where I live right now. It's not

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photographically beautiful here in Missouri. It's not spring yet

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and we're in the ugly part of the end of winter where there's

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no snow covering anything and its just brown. Yeah, it's just

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not super inspiring the horses we're all tired of winter around

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here, the horses the goats me the dog. Just like all it's

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done, we're ready to move on to a spring where there's lots of

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good green grass, but we have wheat growing in one of our

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fields. So I will have lots of wheat pictures because I think

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wheat is some of the most beautiful crops in the world.

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It's just it's gorgeous when it starts growing. It is the most

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impossibly beautiful color of green when it finally gets all

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up and sprouted. And I get super excited when my farmer Scott

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plants wheat on our field, it's 127 contiguous acres of wheat.

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So it's just this giant rolling ocean of wheat. As far as my

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work is concerned, of course, I I spend a lot of time doing zoom

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meetings and office work as a business consultant. But when it

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comes to the photography side of my business this past week, I've

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had a lot of photo orders to fulfill from really old photo

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they have as proofs and some of these came from the Powderhorn,

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they're using them in their catalog, their sale catalog, and

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lot at Powderhorn. Yes. So we ended up having to do some

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digging around to find the right image. So thank God for

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Lightroom and my ability to do some very intensive searches on

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dates and numbers and I was able to get them the right image

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really pretty quickly and get everything off to them. I also

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have been participating in a lot of which you guys didn't mention

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at all with because I've done it with both of you is cottonwood

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interviews, we've been talking to photographers that are coming

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to our cottonwood retreat and photographic experience learning

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experience in August and we're doing interview calls with them

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ahead of that just to make sure that they're set up their

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mentoring and and get an idea of what their goals are so that we

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can make that event the event that we want it to be very much

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catering to what reaching those goals that the photographers

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that are coming are having. So those have been wonderful. I

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always learn new things about what people have around their

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goals around photography when we do those. So those have been

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exciting. I've enjoyed meeting some new people and it's been

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really, really fun to do those with the two of you and I've

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been doing a ton of website updates, getting things behind

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the scenes moving in the right direction for all of the things

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that are going on. I of course the website designer in the

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studio trio. So I'm the one who does a lot of the website work.

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And I do a lot of website work outside of this as well. So

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that's kind of what I've been up to. I taught a live class on

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Monday, which I haven't done in a really long time I've been

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mostly zoom. It's just been really hit and miss but it was

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fun to sit with a group of entrepreneurs and talk about

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business and and we discussed the ins and outs of getting your

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business digital marketing put together.

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On another note, I think that we should

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mention that we do still have a couple spots left for

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cottonwood.

Cara Taylor Swift:

WE do actually I think we have three

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I'm looking at it right now we have three spaces left for the

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cottonwood ranch experience. So there's lots of ways people can

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learn about that they can just go to the website

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cowgirlswithcameras.com click on Events and you'll see all of our

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events right there and learn about the cottonwood experience.

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Yep, just three spaces. So it's a it's gone

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really quickly. The spaces are filled fast for that event.

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Alright, so let's move the conversation over to Art of the

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Cowgirl. This is an event that we all three got to go to

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Phyllis and I were leading at the photography workshop at the

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event. So Phyllis, what is your take on what is Art of the

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Cowgirl? How would you explain it?

Phyllis Burchett:

Well, first off, it's an amazing event Art

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of the Cowgirl is a gathering to celebrate the cowgirl way of

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life and cowgirls themselves and how they contribute to the

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Western way of lifestyle and culture. It's a way to help

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raise funds to support up and coming artists to expand their

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knowledge and skills through fellowships that the art of the

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cowgirl offers. These Fellowships are offered for

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participants to join a master artist in their field to learn

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more to spend some time I think it's around two weeks a year

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they get to go spend time with that master artist at their

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location and just be fully immersed in their craft for a

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couple of weeks. Yes, I didn't realize so it's really cool. And

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this this whole event is a way to to help raise funds for those

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fellowships and the whole event. Gosh, the event includes so much

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there's a trade show which we all love to shop music is going

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on every day and before a lot of the big events they have some

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headliners is all women's ranch rodeo event the elite ranch

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horse sale the world's greatest horse woman. There's an art

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auction, a big art auction. There's clinician demonstrations

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called starting stock dog demonstrations, and I think they

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do dog trials as well. Trick riding artists demonstrations,

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there's clinics going on that you can join in. There's our

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photography clinic.

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It's basically a photographers dream

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for sure. Even if you're not there to ride or it's the sights

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and the sounds and the smells and the I mean just everything

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it's like all so immersive.

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It's all about cowgirls, but there's a lot of

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cowboys at the event too, that they're there to support their

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girlfriends, wives, mothers,

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good supportive cowboys. It's fun to watch that.

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Yeah, it's all a celebration of the cowgirl way of life.

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It was in January this year and while it's

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in January every year but this year it was in Queen Creek,

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Arizona. I think that was the first time they hadn't Queen

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Creek right?

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They had I think the competitions last year

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competitions last year were at that venue but COVID has like

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really messed with their schedule and then they moved to

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the event to Montana last summer which we all got to go to as

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well. And then the year before it was at Corona Ranch. Corona

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Ranch is beautiful. Montana is beautiful Queen Creek is

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awesome. I got to visit with some old friends. I didn't

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realize one of my old buddies that I photographed for was

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there. David Solemn is one of the people at Queen Creek that's

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in the management and operations and it was fun to see him and

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that was a nice surprise to catch up with him for his I

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haven't seen him since he left Missouri. I think it would be

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interesting to learn I want to share how we ended up at this

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event, right? So years and years and years ago, I did some

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photography work for Purina and it was actually not like huge

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like photographing product or anything. It was traveling

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around to the colt starting clinics that were put on as part

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of the how workshops or horse owner workshops that were done

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in this particular area and the person that they hired to do the

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colt starting clinics was Kurt Pate, and Kurt traveled a lot

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with his family. His wife is Tammy Pate and art of the

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cowgirl is Tammy Pates brainchild, it's her gift to all

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of us with being able to share the cow girl way of life and the

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Art of the Cowgirl is exactly a very good term for that as to

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what she shares but I met them that was back in the late 90s,

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photography and taking photos of Kurt back in the film days and

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giving those to Purina for them to use for just basically

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marketing those horse owner workshops. So to give you guys

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that are listening that are looking for a break in

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photography that was a big one for me and my photography career

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was being able to Do those horse owner workshops with Purina in

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another world in another lifetime. You all know that I am

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equine Gestalt is to certified through touched by a horse. I

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also worked with their photography and with their

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marketing for many years before I became certified and in that

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process I met a beautiful young woman named Jamie Stoltzfus and

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Jamie and Tammy are very much involved. Jamie is like, feels

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like she's Tamizh right hand girl most days. I don't know

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what her exact position is. But Jamie is powerhouse when it

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comes to Art of the Cowgirl. And I know she does a lot of things

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and she coordinated with Phyllis and I to come do a workshop with

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some photographers in association with Art of the

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Cowgirl out in Montana in big timber one summer and it was a

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hit. And Phyllis and I had a blast. You have to admit

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Phyllis, that was one of the funnest groups of girls we have

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ever worked with, don't you think?

Phyllis Burchett:

Oh yeah, they were great. And then the

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locations we had, besides the clinic and watching Lee do her

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horsemanship clinic that was so

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great. It was amazing. It was amazing. So at

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any rate, they had us come back and do a workshop at the event.

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And that turned out well. So we couldn't be more pleased with

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our relationship with art of the cowgirl we love the event. We

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love the passion behind the artists we love being able to

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help photographers get a handle on working an event like that

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and what it feels like to be behind the lens at a bigger

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event and to have more access than you would have as just a

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participant and also to be able to get classroom time with

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Phyllis and I and to be able to just really hone your craft in a

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very collaborative work environment. I think it's an

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amazing opportunity for people who are really interested in

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building a photography career or honing their skills in a

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situation where you have just absolutely amazing opportunities

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to photograph so many different things all within a few feet of

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each other.

Phyllis Burchett:

I agree Kim I think it's an it's so great

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because the participants get to have an all access press pass to

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be a part of the official photographers for the event and

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which is really a great way to get their names out there and

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get their work seen is such a great event. And oh my gosh, the

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girls we had this year where every year I think it can't get

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better in it does. I know

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And the jobs they're picking up because of

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the events like I've been amazed with watching them and the jobs

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that they're getting and posting about on social just about the

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fact that they actually had exposure to the types of

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photography that they want to do that they can't get access to

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regularly because they were part of the workshop. So they've been

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able to show in their portfolios, the type of work

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that they want to create and that they can create and they're

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picking up jobs in their hometowns, because now they can

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they're showing that they can do the job. So that has been for me

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one of the coolest things to see is how you can go to an event

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and spend and invest a little bit and then what you can do

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with those images and how they can just propel you

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and the confidence they got out of it

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too.

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Those two things right. There are the things that

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excite me so much about what we're doing with Cowgirls with

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Cameras is because my camera has opened so many doors for me in

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life. Those horse owner workshops are only one door that

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they opened that led to so many better things 20 Something plus

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years later but my camera has always been a key to getting me

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where I want to go and to have the opportunity now to present

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the door and pass those keys along to somebody else. It's an

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honor and it's it's amazing and I cannot believe I have to pinch

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myself sometimes to realize that I get to do this I get to help

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other photographers to be successful and to watch them get

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giddy. I I know for me one of my favorite moments in association

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with art of the cowgirl events happened at that big timber

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workshop and we were showing the photographers how to do

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silhouettes and we were speaking of the silhouette Hill this was

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a beautiful silhouette Hill out on the Hagerman Ranch. Hagerman

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Hagerman, sorry, Alison, there were running their horses for

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the photographer's and it was a really pretty sky and it was

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just a gorgeous sunset opportunity. And the girls were

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laying down on their bellies in the grass, shooting the pictures

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up and they were looking at their camera backs and just so

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excited and so yes, I got it. I got it. It was such a fun

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experience to watch that. Do you remember that Phyllis?

Phyllis Burchett:

Oh gosh, yes, I remember to when we got to sit

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down and we had said rope, you know Ropin at us with our wide

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angle lenses. And that's a couple of the girls. I let them

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borrow my wide angle because they didn't have some and they

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were like I just remember how excited they were and how cool

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it was to you know, I don't know it's just a really neat

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experience just watching them be excited and a couple

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of those girls from that particular workshop

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have gone on to be very successful with their

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photography now we're doing a lot of things more full time I'm

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just I'm pleased as punch

Cara Taylor Swift:

I have to say my experience at Art of the

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Cowgirl wasn't nearly as glamorous as you all's I was one

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of the booth babes for the week. So I didn't get glamorous, it

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was just a booth babe. The name itself isn't glamorous. But I

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got to hang with Marci, when Marci Marci Jo photography, we

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work the booth all week. And what our job was basically was

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to sell the art for the barn pieces curated from each one of

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us were hanging in and for sale at the event. And then really,

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the big thing was talking to folks just really talking to

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folks about what we do about cowgirls with cameras or

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upcoming events. And I got to put some of my, you know, my

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sales tools to work and help grow our list of people that

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might be interested in future events. And honestly, I kind of

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love doing that, like I'm not an extroverted person. But when I'm

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in my element, I really do enjoy talking about the art that we

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create and talking about and get, because I'm so excited

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about the stuff that we're doing. So it was a lot of fun to

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get to talk to people and share it with other folks. So I was

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just a booth babe, but I grabbed my camera a few times, but for

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the most part, I was the booth babe, and I enjoyed it.

Phyllis Burchett:

You and Marci did a fabulous job of selling

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and promoting and your enthusiasm was contagious to

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all.

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Absolutely. You guys made the event so special

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for so many people, because I know you told all of these

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stories about the artwork on the wall. And that was people really

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they enjoy hearing those stories because it's fun, and it's fun

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for us to share our adventures too. And Marci brought a breath

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of fresh air to the whole event.

Cara Taylor Swift:

So do they have dates for next year's

Cara Taylor Swift:

events?

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I don't think so. I was looking at the calendar

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here.

Phyllis Burchett:

They don't have dates announced yet for

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next year's Art of the Cowgirl event in Arizona. However, Kim

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and I are hosting a workshop in big timber with their next big

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clinic that Art of the Cowgirl is doing they're in August like

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late August. So we will have those I think registration will

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be open for that one April 1

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Yes. And that's a fascinatingly wonderful event.

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Remember those the me is just telling you about the fact we

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were having so much fun taking pictures of the silhouette hill

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that's the same area where we will be shooting again we stay

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at a wonderful place called the Burntout Lodge. I think that's

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been reserved for this year coming up so don't kill me if

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that's not where you end up. Stay in if you come but burnt

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out Lodge is run by Ruth and Ruth herself is worth the trip.

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So I do have to tell you she's quite the character and and the

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food is gloriously fantastic. She's an amazing cook. This

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particular workshop is going to be in conjunction with their

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writing clinic and workshop in big timber. It is August the

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19th to the 21st and there's a horsemanship clinic with

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horsewoman Lee Smith who is another person that it when you

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have the opportunity to meet you should certainly meet Lee Smith

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because she is an amazing person. They're going to have a

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packing and wilderness workshop with Jody Oliver Kate O'Brien,

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Katy Horton and Rachel Lineberger. Then there's a cinch

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building class and running in association with this and chink

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building horsehair hitching. And then also down at the bottom of

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the list in the newsletter are Phyllis and I, with our

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photography, retreat and workshop, and trust me, this one

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is going to be a blast. They will start taking registrations

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on April 1, those registrations are through Art of the Cowgirl

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so you can go to artofthecowgirl.com and these

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workshops tend to fill up pretty quickly so I would grab your

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spot as soon as you can. And please know that when you

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support this workshop, you're supporting art of the cowgirl as

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an entire event because part of the proceeds for this go to the

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fellowship program.

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And also just another note, we will be

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shooting at local ranches not exclusively at the event itself.

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So we will document some of the happenings at the horsemanship

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clinic and the other clinics that are going on but we will be

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shooting at local ranches. I think probably 75% of the time

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right cam

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at least Yeah, we're gonna do some at least

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MissLee's clinic but we definitely and we have some

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amazing locations that have offered up there places for us

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to shoot. So we haven't lined out all of the details yet. So I

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don't want to quite get into that. But I do want to tell you

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that it's going to be a really special event and it has a very

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limited number of people that can attend. So if you're

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interested do grab your spot early because it probably will

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be gone if you don't. And big timber is amazing. Lee is

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amazing. The whole thing will be fantastic. We'll have a great

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time.

Phyllis Burchett:

I mean, what could be better than beautiful

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Montana?

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Montana and horses. There's there Not much

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gets better than that. Cara. Do you have anything else you want

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to add about your experience at art of the cowgirl? Are we ready

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to talk about cameras?

Cara Taylor Swift:

I mean, other than I spent too much money. I

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think we're ready to talk about camera.

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Do you ever go to an expo and not spend too much

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money?

Cara Taylor Swift:

amazing art there to buy?

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Do you ever go to an expo and not spend too much

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and I only go to like one Expo a

Cara Taylor Swift:

year so so I mean, I got all my Christmas

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shopping done, I guess. Yo,

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that's a good thing. That's a good thing. Your

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way early on the Christmas shopping Christmas was barely

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over.

Cara Taylor Swift:

That's how I justified

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There you go. There you go. There you go.

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Okay,

Phyllis Burchett:

you You did better than me. I think I only

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bought stuff for myself.

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Well, she didn't say who the Christmas gifts were

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for. It could have been for her. Oh, that's true. That's I find

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myself very true all the time.

Cara Taylor Swift:

And another stocking stuffer and another

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stocing stuffer.

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I love it. I love it. So let's talk about gear a

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little bit. I know everyone gets fascinated photographers spent a

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lot of time chit chatting about gear and what is your camera? Do

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what is your camera do? And Phyllis you recently got one of

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the unicorns of the Nikon line. And I think there's a lot of

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people that are probably pretty jelly that they're we're still

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probably waiting on their Z nine and you're out there shooting

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with yours. What's your experience been like so far?

Phyllis Burchett:

Oh, well. My initial experience when I

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stupidly took it to Art of the Cowgirl straight out of the box

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without shooting it before I went was not great. But then

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thankfully, one of our participants helped me with it

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because she knew more about the mirrorless system than I did.

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Thank you shout out to Patti Monson. Thank you, Patti. After

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we get that little issue taken care of I absolutely love it.

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Just to backtrack a little bit. I'm a Nikon shooter obviously

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and I had the Nikon D four which I'd had for like 10 years and it

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was dependable. It was like my workhorse of a camera it was my

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go to but it started having some issues. So I realized it was

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time to upgrade and I was torn between upgrading to the D six

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or going mirrorless and I kind of feel like that that's the way

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the market is going to mirrorless I mean I'm not saying

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that SLR DSLR is dead, I just think it's going to be a long

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progression and it is it is going towards mirrorless and so

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I went ahead and jumped up there because I'm an NPS member the

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pro professional services I was able to get mine the end of

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December which I know that's crazy because the event was two

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weeks later and why didn't shoot with it before that I don't know

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but anyway it is the Nikon Z nine is one of the most powerful

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cameras on the market. I do believe this not just because I

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shoot Nikon but because it really is is capable of up to 30

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frames per second if you're shooting in JPEG or 20 frames

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per second if you're shooting with raw you can do 8k video is

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one of the few cameras on the market that completely forgo

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mechanical shutter of the design decision made it possible for

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Nikon to to go with a really fast readout speed of a new with

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a new sensor it is the first Nikon mirrorless to offer the

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company's autofocus tracking system that combined with it

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does have a subject recognition system which is amazing. It has

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three sets of subjects that recognizes people animals and

Phyllis Burchett:

vehicles which is pretty cool. It has a 45.7 megapixel sensor

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so you get really large files out of this which I had the D

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850. So I'm somewhat used to this course sometimes you don't

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need that you can change that in some of your settings in the

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menu the like I said the the tracking system is amazing. I

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mean it's it's almost impossible to not get sharp, it's operator

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error when you mess up and don't get some sharp now it's bulkier

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and heavier than some of the other cameras like the AR five

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or some of the other mirrorless but which I don't mind because

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it still feels like I have my D four in my camera it feels like

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a pro camera that's easier to hold to me despite the size of

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the camera. It does have a dual axis tilt screen which is really

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cool. It has excellent battery life I stepped up and also

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bought the the Nikon Z 62 as well so I'd have two mirrorless

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cameras since I'm kind of angling myself in that direction

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it's for me it's been a game changer as far as the tracking

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as just amazing tracking like being able to like I even did

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get to shoot some pictures of my dog since I've been home running

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towards me which always had problems getting that really

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fast subject running at me sharp and and they've been boy that

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thing is dead on every time so it's pretty cool. I highly

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recommend going to the Z9 if you can afford it it is it is a bit

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of a step up and camera as far as the price goes but the D4 was

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a pricey camera for me as well as well as the D6 would have

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been so

Cara Taylor Swift:

that's pretty fancy. Sounds pretty fancy to

Cara Taylor Swift:

me.

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It is pretty fast.

Phyllis Burchett:

I like it. It was pretty I get a lot.

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So I got to shoot the R5 at our fall Powderhorn

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retreat and Phyllis is not into the brand war thing I am

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personally into it. I'm very Canon loyal. I love my Canon

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cameras. I always get it at workshops. I always like count

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up the Canon and Mac people because those are my people, you

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know? Like, yes, we have more Canons than Nikon's. So I'm a

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little twist and in that way, I don't think Cara could care

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less. But anyway, so I did shoot the R5,

Phyllis Burchett:

she's a lot twisted.

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I am I am a bad okay, so I shot the R5, and I

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haven't bought it yet I rented it because the price tag is like

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on it, it's pretty high. It's not as high as the Z9. But it's

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high. I had just upgraded to the 5D mark iv last year before the

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R five came out the year before the R five came out. So I was I

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kind of blew my camera budget on that. And so the R5 was I wanted

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to run it to see if it was something that I really wanted.

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And I have to tell you, it's something I really really want.

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And as soon as I can swing it, it will be in my camera bag. I

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love to shooting with this camera. It was a little bit of a

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learning curve. But Phyllis is right the R5 has a lot of

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similar features. It's similar in size with the sensor, it does

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have the tracking autofocus, it has so many wonderful little

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bells and whistles that help you keep your images sharp, it helps

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you a lot with exposure. One thing that I was very, very

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worried about that I didn't think I would like but I

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actually fell in love with was the electronic viewfinder. So

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when you look at something it renders in the viewfinder

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exactly what that image or close to it. It's not exact, by the

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way, but it's a much different feel to shoot. Because it's what

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you're seeing is not the same thing you see through your DSLR

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it's the camera projecting the image. So when you shift your

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exposure, it shifts in the viewfinder so you can see

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whether it's too light or too dark. It's it's really awesome

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to enjoy it. I think for me, that's an incredible feature. It

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is an incredible feature. But the thing about it that I didn't

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know if I would like it one, but the thing it did for me is it

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expanded my creativity. So I'd shoot the picture the way I kind

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of envisioned it. And then I would play a little bit with the

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exposure to see how how I could change the drama of the image,

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so to speak. So I found it really fun to play with

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artistically and I ended up taking some photos around that

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way. I also did a lot of shooting with the video feature

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with the R5 and I'm going to tell you there were just little

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short clips, but I was very very pleased with the performance of

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how the R5 works with video versus how my DSLR my 5D Mark iv

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works with video I felt like the R5 felt a little bit more video

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friendly, I've had a I've struggled a lot because I've

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done a lot of videoraphy in the past with dedicated video

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cameras and going from one of those cameras that has so many

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videos specific perks to DSLR was a struggle for me but the

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mirrorless feels like it gave me back a lot of the things that I

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really enjoyed about my dedicated video camera. So I

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thoroughly enjoyed working with the video Canon has done a good

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job in making it easy to switch between shooting stills and

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shooting video. And I feel like when I have the R5 in my bag

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again, it's it's going to be one of those things where I am

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shooting a lot more video with it as an addition to the still

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photos. So I really enjoyed using it and I think it's an

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amazingly good camera. I know that Canon will be coming out

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with new ones and so will Nikon. So we'll probably be revisiting

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this conversation in the future with a little bit more detail.

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But if you're considering one of these mirrorless cameras, my

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suggestion to you is to rent it and to take it maybe not do what

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Phyllis and I did which is get it and go straight to a

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photoshoot. I did the same thing Phyllis did filming I got it. I

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got the mirrorless camera I arrived on my doorstep and I

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went directly to a paid photoshoot with a really

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complicated lighting situation. So I was learning it out the box

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it was in that situation it was a woman in front of a fire. So

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and we she wanted silhouetted photos with this fire look and

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it was

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it was fun. I think we both did what we tell

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our students not to do. Exactly. Don't come to a shoot with a

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brand new camera that you've never shot with. And we both did

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that. So those

Cara Taylor Swift:

you guys are braver than me I would be at

Cara Taylor Swift:

home like keeping it in the box and using the old gear because

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I'm a big tried and tested when it comes to paid photo shoot.

Cara Taylor Swift:

You guys are way braver than me.

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So I have to laugh at this. So what I did was

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when I learned that are five this is how I learned it you

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guys will enjoy this story. So our washing machine was broke.

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And yes, I said washing I'm from Missouri that's got an R in it

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when you live here. So our washing machine was broken, I

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was leaving to go on a trip to go out to Powderhorn and I

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needed to do laundry. So I pick up the R5, I get the lens, I go

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to the laundromat, put my clothes in the washing machine.

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And then I went out to my truck and sat in the truck and read

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the little owner's manual thing and Googled stuff on my phone

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and shot about a million pictures of the ugliest

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laundromat parking lot figuring out how to use all the features

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that I needed, because as soon as my clothes were dry, I threw

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them in the car and went to the photoshoot. So this is the

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glamorous life of a real photographer than on the road.

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You're you're doing your laundry at the laundromat learning how

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to use a camera that cost almost as much as your truck and then

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at knocked, do a photo shoot

Cara Taylor Swift:

well I don't do anything without detailed

Cara Taylor Swift:

planning and notes and thought process behind it in terms of

Cara Taylor Swift:

shooting so I just get it it just gives me anxiety even

Cara Taylor Swift:

thinking about it personally. So yeah,

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that's the opposite. You got a new camera

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recently to you just didn't jump the ship to the mirrorless

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version of things. So I'm sure there was a little learning

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curve with that

Cara Taylor Swift:

there was I've always been one that and I

Cara Taylor Swift:

do the same thing with like other tech like cell phones and

Cara Taylor Swift:

computers like I've never been one to buy the new piece right

Cara Taylor Swift:

when it comes to the market, partly because it's never really

Cara Taylor Swift:

been in my budget most of the time. But also because I've

Cara Taylor Swift:

always said like, How can my cell phone get any better than

Cara Taylor Swift:

it already is? Right? They just came out with a new and how can

Cara Taylor Swift:

it get any better? It already does everything I need it to do

Cara Taylor Swift:

right. So for me, I usually end up picking up something that's

Cara Taylor Swift:

like one step down from the latest and greatest and I and I

Cara Taylor Swift:

like that when the new thing comes out. The next latest and

Cara Taylor Swift:

greatest gets cheaper. So that's usually when I buy it or

Phyllis Burchett:

when you lose your cell phone and you are

Phyllis Burchett:

forced to buy a new one.

Cara Taylor Swift:

Ok yeah

Kimberly Beer:

She lost her cell phone on purpose. Phyllis, I am

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convinced that it she she's like, Oh, look at the cell

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phone, I need to put it in my pocket. And it was like hang in

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half out. We're bumping along across the Deerwood Ranch. Oops,

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my phone got lost, we would have found that phone if she'd given

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us another 30 minutes.

Phyllis Burchett:

But I also remember how excited she was

Phyllis Burchett:

when she realized all the cool things that new cell phone could

Phyllis Burchett:

do. Okay, one couldn't do,

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including the lip balm thing on the back of it.

Phyllis Burchett:

Yeah.

Cara Taylor Swift:

We're not talking about cell phones. We're

Cara Taylor Swift:

talking about cameras ladies. So

Phyllis Burchett:

I shoot camera too,

Cara Taylor Swift:

I shoot with a 1DX. And I shoot with a 6D

Cara Taylor Swift:

Mark ii. Those are my workhorses. And I think they're

Cara Taylor Swift:

both very nice cameras. They are second I think my 1DX is a used

Cara Taylor Swift:

camera I bought it used from KEH I think is where I got it. And

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the the thing is, is that I just want folks out there that maybe

Cara Taylor Swift:

they can't afford to run and buy the new mirrorless systems,

Cara Taylor Swift:

okay, whether your Canon or Sony or Nikon, maybe you can't afford

Cara Taylor Swift:

to buy that that is okay, because you know, this rush the

Cara Taylor Swift:

mirrorless has opened the SLR market in terms of prices and

Cara Taylor Swift:

secondhand gear, and it is a great time to go ahead and pick

Cara Taylor Swift:

up something that's new to you and something that is growth for

Cara Taylor Swift:

you. And it's a great way to upgrade your system. Or if you

Cara Taylor Swift:

you need a backup camera. I mean, like I think all of us

Cara Taylor Swift:

would say it's nice to have a second camera, you never want to

Cara Taylor Swift:

be on a job and have your system go out on you. It's nice to have

Cara Taylor Swift:

something else you can pull out of your bag. So you know it's a

Cara Taylor Swift:

great time to upgrade your system. So I just want people to

Cara Taylor Swift:

know that just because you don't have the most expensive camera

Cara Taylor Swift:

out there. Just because you don't have the newest gear you

Cara Taylor Swift:

can still create beautiful images. And you know as much as

Cara Taylor Swift:

I'd love to have a Canon R5 one day I just flat out do not want

Cara Taylor Swift:

to invest in any new gear this year. I made that a point for

Cara Taylor Swift:

myself, I'm going to invest in some other things, which means

Cara Taylor Swift:

that I'm going to be sticking with my old gear a little bit

Cara Taylor Swift:

longer. And I think that's totally okay.

Kimberly Beer:

Totally. It is totally okay. And I'll tell you

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another thing for those of you who are looking at like the

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sensor sizes and those kinds of things and wonder, Oh wow, I if

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I use this older camera, the images that I take aren't going

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to be saleable or they're just not going to be as good. Don't

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go there. I am still selling images that I shot years ago on

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a camera that only had a 10 megapixel sensor. So I still

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sell those images. I still sell them to people to put them on

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Billboard's so there's no don't don't get yourself in the

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contest of measuring your camera's capability against

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something else. It has much more to do with you as the shooter

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than it does that piece of equipment. We'd love our tech

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but still,

Phyllis Burchett:

yes my D4 that. I just replaced what this

Phyllis Burchett:

new camera was with was only a 16 and a half megapixel camera

Phyllis Burchett:

and I mean the sensor was great in it so it was a really fast

Phyllis Burchett:

for you know the frames per second were really fast but I'd

Phyllis Burchett:

say probably 80% of my images that I send to my publisher were

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from that camera yeah is not is not imperative that you go out

Phyllis Burchett:

and buy the latest and greatest you can still get great images

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it's it is all about the user not the product.

Kimberly Beer:

It is the end end product is all about how you

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shoot with that camera. So ladies, I think we're up to our

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cowgirls with cameras photo challenge for this week and

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wrapping up this episode. This has been so much fun chit

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chatting with you guys about this and remembering stories

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especially Cara losing her phone at Deerwood will tell you the

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full story on that if you tuned in on a future episode because

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it's an entertaining story. And it tells you that the GPS on

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your camera really does work. Okay, so on to Cara's looking at

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me like Kim, move it on to the challenge and quit Get off of my

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phone. Alright, so the challenge for this week. So here's how it

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works. We give you a challenge per episode, not per week, but

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per episode. And this episodes challenge is details. So what I

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want you to do is get your camera whether you have a Z9 and

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R5 or a D whatever, or if it's just your cell phone that you're

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shooting with. And I don't want to say just your cell phone

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because I think my cell phone has a better sensor in it than

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my first digital camera, the pro camera that I paid a lot of

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money for. So whatever camera you have in your hand, I want

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you to focus on the details in the western photography world,

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the details in some of the saddles and tack and horse faces

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and landscape and animals. The details are often where the

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deepest stories are. And when you take a moment to just really

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zoom in or walk in and focus on those details. You learn a lot

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about your subject and how you want to tell that story. So what

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you do is you get your photos, you take your detail photos, and

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please post those with the #CWCphotochallenge on Instagram

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so that again, that's the #CWCphotochallenge on Instagram.

Cara Taylor Swift:

That's right. Thank you guys for listening

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today. We would appreciate it if you enjoyed this episode that

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you follow or subscribe whatever your listening app allows you to

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do that just lets folks know that you know, lets us know that

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you guys are listening and downloading. The other thing

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we'd love for you guys to do is check out our socials, we can be

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found at cowgirls with cameras on Instagram, and on Facebook.

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And our website is cowgirls with cameras calm and that's where

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you can learn a little bit more about Kim, Phyllis and I and

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also some of our upcoming photography events that we have

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coming up. We'd love to see you guys there. In the meantime,

Cara Taylor Swift:

it's been a great episode guys. Looking forward to chatting with

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you in the next couple weeks.

Kimberly Beer:

Y'all have a great week. Keep shooting.

Jaz:

Thanks for listening to this episode of Cowgirls with

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Cameras. Don't let the laughter and learning stop here. Join our

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community on social media. And be sure to visit our website for

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more opportunities to fulfill your photography goals. Head to

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